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    Re: True Lovers Knot Tiara ownership Archived Message

    Posted by Nellie on October 9, 2014, 1:33 am, in reply to "Re: True Lovers Knot Tiara ownership"


    Beth, I broadly support just about all you write here.

    Roberts was extremely circumspect in the QD and handled the transfer of jewels from one to another with tremendous tact, I thought.

    I think I have suggested before that there could easily be some "disputes" within the family, even today - and as so often occurs in many families over property - and Roberts has been tactful for more than one reason, is my suggestion.


    --Previous Message--
    : I agree with Nellie that the word, copyright,
    : refers to the photograph (not ownership of
    : the tiara) and indicates that others cannot
    : use the photograph without permission.
    : Field's sweeping statement is only her
    : interpretation, and has a lot of holes in
    : it. It ignores the fact that Queen Mary did
    : not hand over all of QA's major jewels to
    : QEQM.
    : For example, Queen Mary kept the brooch
    : (Roberts p 88) and earrings (Roberts p 92)
    : from the pearl wedding suite, as well as the
    : Kokoshnik tiara. (Roberts p 102) She also
    : kept Queen Alexandra's collet necklace. (See
    : Roberts p 94) We know that QA's wedding gift
    : tiara - a major jewel - did not stay with
    : the main royal line.
    : I find it significant that Roberts talks
    : about the personal collection of The Queen
    : (p 12-13). When he is indicating the time HM
    : acquired or acquired use of specific jewels,
    : he uses terms to differentiate an
    : inheritance from when she acquired access
    : because she is the sovereign. For example,
    : on p 84 he says she 'inherited' Queen
    : Alexandra's wedding necklace in 2002. On
    : page 94 he says that Queen Alexandra's
    : collet necklace was 'bequeathed' to The
    : Queen in 1953. Because Queen Alexandra
    : indicated that her Dagmar necklace should be
    : a crown heirloom, he describes on p 98 it
    : 'passing in succession...' from one queen to
    : the other and to QEII in 1952. In relation
    : to the Lovers Knot tiara he states on p 182
    : that it 'was inherited by The Queen...' and
    : 'worn by Diana,... following her marriage in
    : 1981' which seems to indicate that Diana is
    : not considered to have owned the tiara
    : personally.
    : As the Papyrus tiara, formerly worn by
    : Princess Margaret, is now back in The
    : Queen's possession, it is probable that some
    : informal arrangements have been made within
    : the Royal family about ownership of specific
    : jewels. I think it is significant that when
    : Queen Mary annotated her jewellery inventory
    : in relation to the Delhi Durbar tiara, she
    : stated that it was given to QEQM to wear in
    : South Africa and then QM said it was
    : 'retained' by QEQM.
    : To me, Roberts' phraseology highlights which
    : items are considered entirely private
    : property which the individual is at liberty
    : to dispose of freely. The current
    : arrangement, which it is said HM has with
    : the government, provides an avenue for
    : assets to pass from monarch to monarch (and
    : presumably assets of their widowed spouses
    : to the monarch) without being diminished by
    : inheritance taxes. None of the indications
    : the public has been given suggests that
    : items, such as the Lovers Knot tiara, are
    : owned by the Royal Collection. To me it
    : would seem illogical for The Queen to hand
    : over valuable private property.
    :
    :


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