Re: Cameo tiara Empress Josephine HQ pic Archived Message
Posted by Nellie   on October 24, 2014, 3:48 am, in reply to "Re: Cameo tiara Empress Josephine HQ pic" 
  Beth, that's all good information about the shell. Thank you.  I am wondering how thick the shell would be.    --Previous Message--  : Thank you Mauriz and Arthur for the photos and   : information on this jewel.   :   : Mauriz, before I saw your HQ photo, I simply   : thought it was an interesting design. Only   : your HQ photo made me realise that I was   : looking at a jewel where I had no idea about   : how it was constructed, and that it was   : something I hadn't seen before. I was   : particularly intrigued by how the top and   : bottom bands (and the wave pattern) were   : achieved without any joins.   :   : Arthur, your photos and the information   : about the shell told me a lot. I can now   : understand the basis of the principal   : section of the tiara, as when I was young it   : was very commonplace for people in North   : Queensland to have large shells as ornaments   : at the front steps or doors to houses. Among   : them was Cassis Cornuta, although they were   : not called that colloquially. (The species   : has been protected here for many years so   : they are now rarely seen in the way I   : described - people have to inherit them or   : pay high prices!)   :   : Mauriz, I have two thoughts about the metal   : aspects - which may or may not assist you.   :   : 1. I suspect that the wide metal band at the   : back may have always existed to ensure that   : the shell was not placed under undue   : pressure by having ties which held the tiara   : securely.   :   : 2. The following idea may explain why there   : are gold elements towards the rear of the   : shell section.   : Could it be that, the tiara was secured by   : ties of some description, and that the   : tension created by that caused a crack in   : the main shell section at one point, and so   : two additional gold elements were used to   : conceal a crack? Obviously, if this scenario   : has any validity, one would have been   : necessary on either side.   :   : I confess I do not have any expert knowledge   : and  that I am clutching at straws to find   : an explanation. The shells I had contact   : with in my childhood were hard/durable,   : definitely not fragile. Children, being   : children, often stood on them to scale the   : railings of the steps to houses. (By way of   : explanation re houses here - until the   : latter part of the twentieth century, houses   : in Queensland were normally built on stumps   : and so there were stairs to the front doors)   :   :  --Previous Message--   :   : Dear Arthur, how polite of you to thank me   : for a HQ image when there was clearly no   : need for it: Your own pictures show the   : details much better. Thanks for that and for   : the comprehensive information about the   : tiara, even more so for your persononal   : account.   :   : From a purely aesthetic point of view I   : would have prefered the tiara without the   : small metal appliqués *within* the   : medaillons which seem arbitrary and formally   : disconnected and only distract from the bold   : design. What I do find interesting though   : are the foliate elements at the sides which   : run through the medaillons - not consistent   : with the rest of the design, but an   : eye-catching alternative.   :   : I'd be interested to learn more about the   : construction. In the second to last picture   : the front part seems doubled or backed with   : another layer of shell and a layer of metal   : in between? The metal band complementing the   : tiara to a full circle is probably a later   : addition?   :   :   :   :   :   :   :  
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