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    Re: Cameo tiara Empress Josephine HQ pic Archived Message

    Posted by Nellie on October 24, 2014, 3:48 am, in reply to "Re: Cameo tiara Empress Josephine HQ pic"


    Beth, that's all good information about the shell. Thank you.
    I am wondering how thick the shell would be.

    --Previous Message--
    : Thank you Mauriz and Arthur for the photos and
    : information on this jewel.
    :
    : Mauriz, before I saw your HQ photo, I simply
    : thought it was an interesting design. Only
    : your HQ photo made me realise that I was
    : looking at a jewel where I had no idea about
    : how it was constructed, and that it was
    : something I hadn't seen before. I was
    : particularly intrigued by how the top and
    : bottom bands (and the wave pattern) were
    : achieved without any joins.
    :
    : Arthur, your photos and the information
    : about the shell told me a lot. I can now
    : understand the basis of the principal
    : section of the tiara, as when I was young it
    : was very commonplace for people in North
    : Queensland to have large shells as ornaments
    : at the front steps or doors to houses. Among
    : them was Cassis Cornuta, although they were
    : not called that colloquially. (The species
    : has been protected here for many years so
    : they are now rarely seen in the way I
    : described - people have to inherit them or
    : pay high prices!)
    :
    : Mauriz, I have two thoughts about the metal
    : aspects - which may or may not assist you.
    :
    : 1. I suspect that the wide metal band at the
    : back may have always existed to ensure that
    : the shell was not placed under undue
    : pressure by having ties which held the tiara
    : securely.
    :
    : 2. The following idea may explain why there
    : are gold elements towards the rear of the
    : shell section.
    : Could it be that, the tiara was secured by
    : ties of some description, and that the
    : tension created by that caused a crack in
    : the main shell section at one point, and so
    : two additional gold elements were used to
    : conceal a crack? Obviously, if this scenario
    : has any validity, one would have been
    : necessary on either side.
    :
    : I confess I do not have any expert knowledge
    : and that I am clutching at straws to find
    : an explanation. The shells I had contact
    : with in my childhood were hard/durable,
    : definitely not fragile. Children, being
    : children, often stood on them to scale the
    : railings of the steps to houses. (By way of
    : explanation re houses here - until the
    : latter part of the twentieth century, houses
    : in Queensland were normally built on stumps
    : and so there were stairs to the front doors)
    :
    : --Previous Message--
    :
    : Dear Arthur, how polite of you to thank me
    : for a HQ image when there was clearly no
    : need for it: Your own pictures show the
    : details much better. Thanks for that and for
    : the comprehensive information about the
    : tiara, even more so for your persononal
    : account.
    :
    : From a purely aesthetic point of view I
    : would have prefered the tiara without the
    : small metal appliqués *within* the
    : medaillons which seem arbitrary and formally
    : disconnected and only distract from the bold
    : design. What I do find interesting though
    : are the foliate elements at the sides which
    : run through the medaillons - not consistent
    : with the rest of the design, but an
    : eye-catching alternative.
    :
    : I'd be interested to learn more about the
    : construction. In the second to last picture
    : the front part seems doubled or backed with
    : another layer of shell and a layer of metal
    : in between? The metal band complementing the
    : tiara to a full circle is probably a later
    : addition?
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