Re: The sunburst diamond brooch pendant Perhaps these reports may help clarify matters Edited Archived Message
Posted by Beth on July 18, 2016, 3:09 pm, in reply to "Re: The sunburst diamond brooch pendant Perhaps these reports may help clarify matters Edited "
Sorry Franck, I don't have any information. If ever I find anything, I will forward the information to you. --Previous Message-- : Dear Beth, : : In the NYT, it was written that Queen : Alexandra had also given a piece of : jewellery to the future duchess oy york. Do : you have more information about this jewel ? : : Best regards, : : Franck : : --Previous Message-- : I can understand Arthur's scepticism. The : same : thoughts occurred to me. : : I think that the conundrum may be solved by : other news reports describing this jewel, as : it seems to me that some media outlets may : have used sloppy terminology. : : The confusion is highlighted by the report : in the Courier and Argus , Dundee 10 : February 1923 p 3 which uses the term rising : sun and also sunburst to describe the : jewel. : : : : A sunburst design does resemble the Warwick : star brooch given to Queen Mary (see : Nellie's post for an image : : http://members2.boardhost.com/royal-jewels/msg/1468746169.html : ) and the jewel in the photo shown by : Ursula in her article. See : : http://www.royal-magazin.de/england/qmum/york-elizabeth-wedding-gifts-rising-sun.htm : : Here is a link to some sunburst designs from : a Google search : : http://www.google.com.au/search?q=sunburst+brooch&client=firefox-b-ab&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi298yJtfzNAhUIE5QKHV8hCkAQsAQIHA&biw=1408&bih=642 : : Other reports also speak of a sunburst : design. : : The Sydney Morning Herald 10 February 1923 : : : The Register , Adelaide, Australia, 10 : February 1923 p 11. : : : I don't know which of the news reports is : the most accurate and I have not had time to : hunt for relevant photos, but it seems to me : that it is possible that Queen Mary gave : the Queen Mother a jewel which fits with the : photo that Ursula used. : : Edit: I should have made it clear that I do : not think the jewel in the photo used by : Ursula and the Warwick star brooch are the : same jewel. Apologies - I was concentrating : on the issue of the description of the jewel : given to QEQM. : : --Previous Message-- : I remain quite sceptical about : - Queen Mary's Warwick Star Brooch : - Queen Mary's wedding gift to the Duchess : of York in 1923 (" a sunburst diamond : brooch pendant, the stones being set in the : form of a rising sun ") : - and the sunburst pendant worn by QEQM : (then Duchess of York) on the picture : published by Ursula's website : being one and the same jewel. : : Reason for my scepticism is that the pendant : worn by the Duchess of York might look as a : sun, but not as a rising sun. A rising : sun would include only a partial view of a : sun, not a full sun. : : To explain clearly what I mean, the : following jewels could be described, IMHO, : as "rising suns" (pictures from : the web, these jewels are not from specific : royal collections, I only include them for : illustration purpose): : : : : : : : : : : :
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