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: : It's possible that the "gypsies"
: referred to in your family story were
: romanichals, also described as AnglIoromani
: or English or Scottish Gypsy people; there
: were some romanichal families in eastern
: Canada in the time period you're talking
: about. As opposed to those gypsies who
: identify themselves as Rom"-- the type
: of gypsies mentioned by the chava who wrote
: in before me-- romanichals are a little more
: likely to intermarry outside their group
: (don't everybody write in and crucify me, I
: can think of at least 5 romanichals I know
: of who married 'outside', and for that
: matter, it happens among Rom as well but
: people act like it doesn't). Anyway good
: luck and God bless in your search. There
: are some sites which might be helpful--I
: think there's a link in the Gypsy Lore
: Society web page for people who want to
: trace their ancestry and it mentions some of
: the various groups. There's one called
: "itinerant roots" and I think some
: of the English Gypsy sites might have
: something for you. Zena
: --Previous Message--
: your story does not sound practible the roma
: back in 1916 kept very much to themselfs
: would never think about having afair with
: non gypsy in would desgrace the familey if
: sombody married a non gypsy im saying that
: would be impossible just unlikely as for
: roma stealing children that has rumor made
: by non gypsysies how that rumor got started
: was that roma had a lot of children and one
: or two would be blond blue eyes or red hair
: green eyes the rest would be dark complected
: so the non gypsy asumed the children were
: stolen
: good luck with your search
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: I am trying to comfirm a rumour that my
: mother's father was gypsy. My grandmother
: got pregnant by a man in 1916 and gave birth
: to my mother in Nov, of that same year.
: There are stories that the man was killed by
: my maternal great-grandfather with the help
: of others and buried on the family property.
: There is also a story that the Gypsies came
: to take my mother when she was about 4 or 5
: years old and were driven off. Is anyone
: out there aware of any communities at that
: time in Nova Scotia, or any stories about a
: family member getting killed around that
: time? Thanks for your help.
:
: it is a fact that English Gypsies Romanichal, Rummychals came to Canada in the 1830s or 40s long before the Vlax Rom came there. Ditto for the U.S. Matter of fact some English Gypsies were given land in Canada for service to the English Crown, mainly with horses in the British Army. And to this day Romanichal and Roma are like strangers to each other. I can personally say that Roma mostly dont even see Romanichal as "gypsies". If you are sitting with a Rom even if you are pals they will tell you they gotta get up and leave to join another Rom who comes into the area. This can be experienced at almost any Carny where Roms are doing business and say Romanichals are bustin there ass working too. Maybe because some Romanichals are light and different in their ways not stict like Roma etc.
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