To the best of my knowledge the Cumberland Diamond was set in the front of the band of the 'Queen Victoria's Regal Circlet', it was only replaced by the large diamond from the Sultan of Turkey in 1858, when the Cumberland Diamond was returned to Hanover.
Thus the diamond from the Sultan of Turkey was in the centre of the band from 1858 to 1937; this diamond was not originally set in the band of the circlet as it was given to Queen Victoria until 1856, thus it could not have been set in the original circlet which was made in 1853.
What's more, Bury reveals that all the diamonds from the band of the circlet were removed and handed over to Hanover, being replaced by diamonds provided by Garrard, all except the large central diamond from Turkey.
It is Roberts himself on page 48 who states that this large diamond from the Sultan of Turkey "was used to replace the Cumberland Diamond in the Regal Circlet, which was reset in 1858". Which is what has led me to my conclusion that the Cumberland Diamond was set in the centre of the band of the regal circlet, and was replaced by the Turkish diamond in 1858. This turkish diamond still occupies the same position in the centre of the band of Queen Elizabeth's Crown (I will use this term from now, apologies for any confusion it may have caused).
In terms of the Garrard Royal Ledger that mentions that the Cumberland Diamond was set into the centre of a cluster, of large diamonds surrounded by small roses. This to me, indicates that the Cumberland Diamond could be worn in this cluster in the centre of the large Honeysuckle Brooch (in place of the Koh-i-Nor). Yet when not being worn in this cluster and brooch, it was worn in the centre of the band of the circlet.
--Previous Message-- : : I have checked a little more about the major : Cumberland diamond. : : For Queen Victoria's Regal Circlet I had : always thought the Cumberland had its own : setting, as an alternate element, to sit : above the band, and not on the band. : : My view seems supported by Crown Jewels : 1998. : : It states for Queen Elizabeth's Crown that : the diamond of the Sultan of Turkey that is : in the central position on the front of the : band of that crown was in the same position : on Queen Victoria's Regal Circlet, which was : stripped of its diamonds to make Queen : Elizabeth's Crown. : : : --Previous Message-- : : : Thought I'd post the Garrard ledger page for : Queen Victoria's Regal Circlet and my : transcription of it. : :
on June 29, 2012, 10:43 am, in reply to "