Re: Evidence from photo Nellie used Re: The story of the necklace… Archived Message
Posted by Laurence on May 11, 2014, 5:40 pm, in reply to "Re: Evidence from photo Nellie used Re: The story of the necklace…"
The other difference is that in the newspaper picture the stones are much further apart, particularly the baguettes in the clasp. The other thing that I noticed is that none of the diamonds in the other three gifts are in settings, all the stones are loose. In the picture of the bracelet for Princess Margaret there is no clasp. That to me says that the stones for the necklace were also unset. It is possible that the newspaper photos were taken before the stones were set and the presentation of the gifts was after the stones were set. Either way there is no reason to think that Garard did not make the setting. The real question is when was the setting made, before or after the gifts were presented. Laurence --Previous Message-- : Thank you Laurence. You have spotted something : significant. In the presentation case the : linking diamonds are definitely in the : centre; yet, at the upper edge in the : necklace as it is today. I find it almost : impossible to tell if there is any setting : work visible in the presentation case, : although I believe I can see claws around : the large round diamonds. Even with high : quality photos (as per in the Queen's : Diamonds) the setting is almost invisible. : I find it impossible to say if the linking : diamonds are centred or at the top of the : setting in the photo Bryce used. : : --Previous Message-- : I think I may have figured it out. The : newspaper picture shows the diamonds in the : display box with the 21 diamonds centred : between the smaller diamonds (all stones are : attached from the centre). The necklace as : worn has the smaller diamonds connected to : the edge of the 21 large stones. The shorter : version of the necklace is still set that : way. The bracelet has all of the stones : centred. I think the newspaper photo shows : the stones unset, but arranged as they would : be once set. The newspaper photo does not : show any hint of a setting. : : Laurence : : --Previous Message-- : Thank you Nellie. This may be one of those : mysteries which will have to wait for future : historians to unravel when additional : information is available. : : --Previous Message-- : : I still don't know what to think. : But Garrard probably made the necklace - : either before presentation or after. : : : --Previous Message-- : The evidence from the photo Nellie posted : above : : : : : : http://members2.boardhost.com/royal-jewels/msg/1399628144.html : would suggest that the necklace was : presented to Princess Elizabeth in a : 'standard' jewellery box (as per the photo : published by the Sydney Morning Herald) and : not a silver casket as described by Field. : : --Previous Message-- : The photo published in the Sydney Morning : Herald shows the necklace in a 'standard' : presentation case for jewellery. I wonder : where Field got her information from? : : --Previous Message-- : This from Fields book I don’t know how : accurate it is but here it goes. : Pss Elizabeth was presented by Field-Marshal : Smuts with her gift from the Government: a : silver casket containing a long chain : necklace of 21 large diamonds that had be : cut and polished in Johannesburg, the : largest of which was 10 carats. Forming : connecting links between each of the 21 main : stones were two small brilliant-cut diamonds : mounted on either side of a baguette : diamond. The casket was handed to Pss : Elizabeth as she stood by a microphone and : the entire nation heard her gasp of delight : when she saw the necklace. From that night : on, she always called them ‘my best : diamonds’. : PJ : : --Previous Message-- : : : …from The Queen's Diamonds : : The gift from the Government of the Union of : South Africa consisted of a long chain of 21 : graduated brilliants - the largest of 10 : carats - each separated by a baguette and : two small brilliants." : The necklace was presented in this : configuation on 21 April 1947. : : The detachable snap-piece was added later : using a 6 carat stone given to her by the : Chariman of De Beers on 18 April. : : The necklace was exhibited in this form with : her wedding presents. : : In my earlier pic the Queen wears the : necklace on a visit to Paris in May 1948. : : Five years later the necklace was shortened : to 15 large stones and a bracelet made from : the six removed and the snap-piece. : : Edit: Footnote - According to Charlotte : Gere and John Culme with William Summers in : "Garrard The Crown Jewellers for 150 : Years 1843 1993", : the 21 diamonds were presented to Princess : Elizabeth unset, then Garrard made the : necklace in London. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :
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