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Posted by Steve Luciani on July 20, 2024, 7:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Reiner, Also Sprach Zarathustra: Pristine vs. HDTT"
Oops. Ignore my previous response. That's a 3/2/48 Brahms 2, not Beethoven 2.
There was a RAH performance of a Beethoven 2nd on October 3, 1948, with the VPO under Furtwangler. Maybe that's what's up on YouTube?
https://catalogue.royalalberthall.com/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Performance&id=Owdoxygood_Bop&pos=5
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Er .. except that, if you read the last entry on the YouTube blog, and replies from "a retired music librarian, who owned a used record store in Edinburgh for many years ... a lifelong Furtwangler enthusiast and the author of several articles on Furtwangler's recorded legacy", there seems to be some doubt it's actually a WF performance. I did enjoy it, though!
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Mike, you may already know of this one, but just in case, it seems to have the least surface noise of all the ones I found. Beautiful performance I hadn't heard before. Albert Hall, 1948:
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I too have many historic recordings and listen with pleasure, sound notwithstanding!
The only one that has defeated me is Furtwangler's Beethoven 2 (Albert Hall, I think). Surely, somewhere, there is a better one? Previous Message
Mike, my sole aim in doing surveys is to suggest which recordings offer the most enjoyable experience. Previous Message
Does anyone here just want to enjoy the music? Previous Message Previous MessageIn my second post, I indicated my preference for studio originals rather than some re-hash because, frankly, having been in the game myself I can hear all the restorers' sonic ruses and that greatly detracts from my listening pleasure.
Agree 100%, especially when attempting to create artificial stereo from mono recordings.
IMHO, the Brahms first example above, like most of Paul Howard's (RA's) work, is more an example of removing patina than artificial enhancement.
Along those lines, I also personally favor the Pristine Mark Obert Thorne restorations, because similar to the RA restorations, they attempt to preserve the unique sonic characteristics of the original recording venues.
Just my two cents! :)
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