Perhaps "Heirlooms of the House of Windsor & its successors" would be better???
--Previous Message-- : : Ok. I see your thinking. : But I have no difficulty with the expression : for jewels and similar property. Simply : stuff that goes with the job. : : Edit: I must add two points. : : The heirlooms of the crown "go with the : job" so they would not revert to the : individuals when they leave the job. : : Not to "the government" either. : Let's keep that body out of all this. Any : elected government is never a candidate for : "ownership" rights: not even : parliament. : The State or the Nation are enough. : : But this does show how changing the status : of a piece of property to "heirloom of : the crown" does remove the piece from : family coffers for all time. My : understanding, of course. : : --Previous Message-- : You can put Crown instead of State in my : previous message and it is the same idea : (even though the State is a much wider : concept, of course). : What I was pointing out is that calling : these jewels Heirlooms of the Crown, or : jewels belonging to the Crown is, in my : theory, a source of confusion for some. : I think they are not the property of the : Crown/State in the same way as Buckingham : Palace or the Crown Estate is, where things : are very clear (ie they are State property). : I would argue they are entailed on the Queen : and Her successors as Sovereigns. Should : that change, the entail would end and they : would revert to the individuals and not the : new Government. : : : : --Previous Message-- : : Alex - I'm not sure that we do understand : each other. I would leave "the : State" out of this crown business. : : "the State" is a concept too : which, in this day and age could mean : anything! : If we got opinions from a dozen QCs we would : probably have a dozen different opinions. : : I think "the State" means the : people, the parliament, and the crown. All : of that and possibly more. : : : --Previous Message-- : I just read your explanation below and I am : happy you see my point! What annoys me is : much too often the press or some authors : infer some of these "Crown" items : belong to the State in the same way the : Crown Estate does and I think that is wrong. : "Heirlooms of the Crown" is an : interesting way to put it, but I think : "heirlooms of the Monarch" would : have been even more to the point if our : theory is indeed correct. : : : : : : : : : :