Re: Necklace with very similar design as the brooch...misterious... Archived Message
Posted by Arthur on August 27, 2014, 5:31 pm, in reply to "Necklace with very similar design as the brooch...misterious..."
Thank you, Barbara D.! Great find, and fantastic pictures! The elements of this Wemyss/Charteris necklace clearly look very similar to the Kent amethyst brooches. I notice a small difference, though: the Wemyss/Charteris amethysts are cut in the shape of a regular hexagon (all the sides have the same length), whereas the Kent hexagonal amethysts look to be in the shape of an irregular hexagon (two of the six sides are longer than the four other sides). May be the Kent amethyst parure was made of several elements acquired separately, at different periods, which would explain the difference of style between the brooches (hexagonal amethysts, sunray design) and the necklace (large oval amethysts with brilliant surround). We will probably never know, unless the Royal Collection discloses information about the parure. I have no information about the origin of the Wemyss/Charteris amethysts. It is possible that they were made by the same jeweller as the one who made the Kent amethysts, or that the Kent amethysts (at least the brooches) were presented to the Duchess of Kent by one of the Earls of Wemyss (though I do not think it is the case). Or the Wemyss/Charteris necklace could have been deliberately copied after the design of the well-known Kent amethyst brooch of the Queen. After all, we know that several royal jewels (Queen Victoria's Jubilee Necklace, Queen Alexandra's 'Rundell' Tiara, the French Crown's Sapphire Tiara...) were copied by jewellers for clients who wanted to have a jewel similar to the Queen's. Just mere speculation, so far... --Previous Message-- : While browsing through the net, I found these : pictures of Lady Mary Charteris (daughter of : The Earl of Wemyss) on her wedding day, back : in September 2012... The bride wears a : necklace whose elements look identical to : the Kent parure's brooch (plus the two : 'other' necklace elements in the Kent : necklace). : : : No, I won't comment on this bridal gown . : : : : : : And now my question: could it be, that the : brooch worn nowadays by HM is not an : original part of the set (Kent demi-parure), : but was aquired/received somewhen later : (with the other two elements, now included : in the necklace) and that the original : brooch was indeed an oval one with rows of : diamonds to surround them and not the one : with this scroll/sunray design??? The oval : brooch : (http://members2.boardhost.com/royal-jewels/msg/1409144593.html) : would actually fit much better to the oval : elements of the necklace... : : For me it looks like the hexagonal elements : were not made to go with the oval ones... It : would be interesting to see the combs...I'm : puzzled... :
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- Interesting idea! - Barbara D. August 27, 2014, 3:30 am
- Necklace with very similar design as the brooch...misterious... - Barbara D. August 27, 2014, 10:43 am
- Re: Necklace with very similar design as the brooch...misterious... - Cristina August 27, 2014, 3:34 pm
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- Re: Necklace with very similar design as the brooch...misterious... - Arthur August 27, 2014, 5:31 pm
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