Re: Movement of Queen Mary's Jewellery Archived Message
Posted by Nellie  on September 1, 2014, 4:48 am, in reply to "Re: Movement of Queen Mary's Jewellery"
Regarding mistakes, Roberts did have access to the illustrated jewel inventory of Queen Mary. (Oh how I would love to see it.)
We believe that Queen Mary faithfully recorded alterations of her jewels, and gifts she made of them.
Also I cannot see how we can identify all fringes worn in pics of the Queen Mother, when there was one fringe from Princess Victoria and the heirloom fringe tiara/necklace.
I do believe we are able to identify Queen Mary's fringe tiara when worn by the Queen Mother.
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: Honestly Beth1 I am no great expert on the
: Windsor's fringes worn up or down.
: What I know is what I have learnt from
: pictures.
: The pictures tell me that the then Duchess
: of York was given a fringe tiara (from Queen
: Mary) in, wasn't it ? August, 1936.
: But QEQM is never seen wearing a fringe
: necklace till just after Queen Mary's death
: in 1953.
: I would conclude, but it's only guess work,
: that Queen Mary left her in her will a
: historic necklace, which she may have
: inherited from Princess Victoria, and which
: rather nicely compliments the tiara she'd
: handed over nearly 20 years earlier.
: The complete lack of evidence that QEQM had
: the necklace as Queen along with the fact
: that she wore it so often in the following
: years, not as Roberts says 'occasionally',
: leads me to think he made a mistake in the
: date it came to the, by now, Queen Mother.
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: Merlin,
: How do you judge which is the Queen Adelaide
: fringe and which belonged to Princess
: Victoria?
: Roberts in QD on page 32 says that QEQM was
: given the Queen Adelaide fringe in 1936 and
: shows a photo of her wearing it on page 33.
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: As we know nice pieces of jewellery were
: left to the Princess Royal, the Duchesses of
: Gloucester and Kent on Queen Mary's death in
: 1953 I find it hard to believe a token was
: not bequeathed to her successor as Queen.
: The Fringe necklace being so noticeably worn
: by QEQM from 1953 onwards makes it a good
: candidate.
: It is obviously a major piece, coming
: perhaps from Princess Victoria in 1935 and
: Queen Alexandra 10 years earlier.
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: Frankly, I do not see how people like us can
: know about the terms of Wills of royals,
: when their Wills are sealed.
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: And royals can give away things at any time
: during their lives as well as making
: bequests, just like people like us do.
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: it can be fun to speculate though.
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: The bulk of Queen Mary's jewellery
: collection was indeed bequeathed to HM the
: Queen. However each of her children and
: grandchildren received jewellery and other
: items. For example we know from the auction
: of Princess Margaret's belongings that a
: number of items originated with her
: Grandmother, Queen Mary.
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: I am intrigues by a comment Merlin made in
: the
: previous thread about the movement of Queen
: Mary's (QM) jewellery.
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: He mentioned that Queen Elizabeth (QEQM) may
: have received some jewellery from QM on her
: death.
:
: I always hear how HM The Queen inherited
: jewellery from QM but I do not recall QEQM
: having received anything on QM death - the
: reference is usually that QEQM received
: jewels from QM when QEQM become Queen
: Consort in 1936.
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: Does anyone have any insight or
: clarification on this?
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: Cheers!
: Bryce
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